K-pop, Korean entertainment/culture, Korean fans/netizens [2014~]

Fan plans to give feminist books for Seventeen's "misogyny"

At a recent fanmeet, Seventeen called their fans 'baby' and 'pretty'. A fan found it misogynistic since it shows "male superiority". Also, the fan found it problematic when Seventeen members exaggerated girl group dances because it's "insulting". The fan is currently collecting other fans' money on Twitter to give feminist books on upcoming Mingyu's birthday.

Pann: About the feminist lead for Seventeen

1. [+135, -7] Twitter feminists need to die.

2. [+99, -3] Crazy, it's misogynistic to call fans baby? So every male idol in the world is misogynistic? ㅋㅋㅋ

3. [+57, -0] It's not OK for the artists to call their fans baby and to talk to them informally, but it's OK for fans to order the artists and to talk to them informally?

4. [+32, -2] True feminists don't try to educate others, don't look down on ignorant people, and don't consider themselves to be superior. Feminists also have to learn endlessly and they have to keep educating themselves. But people here only target boy groups and nitpick every word and movement to criticize them. You can look around and find misogyny and discrimination from social perception, movies, novels, dramas, and commercials. But some feminists don't mention that at all and chase after innocent male idols. Some people join them so that they can bash the groups they dislike and yet they choose to be blind when it comes to their favorite artists and other cases of misogyny and discrimination. People can make mistakes and be ignorant. They're somewhat aware of it and try to fix themselves. It's the same with feminists. There's no one who understands feminism completely at once. When they witchhunt a male idol for his misogyny and sexism, they're no different from the Korean men that they criticize. They need to make arguments on the wrongdoing, ways to fix it, and make people aware of it. Instead, they insult the artist and bash the fans for being "fangirls". They insult the artist's looks and personality with live tweets. If they give a proper feedback on the issue, the artist and their fans would think, "Oh, this is right. This could be seen misogynistic. We should learn from it and fix it." But insulting back brings more hatred. Insulting the people and the public for making mistakes and being pathetic will only backfire and it will not fix the issues of misogyny and hatred. People don't deserve to be insulted just for not knowing about it. Foreign actors and feminists never insult others, never put down others, and never treat others as a trash. They only try to make people aware and consider themselves to be leaders of the change that are not superior than the others.

5. [+31, -1] If she genuinely wanted to give presents for Mingyu's birthday, she would've done it quietly. I'm sure she has enough money to buy a book. She said she doesn't care if Seventeen gets backfired, she's definitely a fake fan or a smart anti. She said she also doesn't know about feminism and that she's still learning about it, I don't understand why she's doing this when she's also clueless. She's acting like a social justice warrior ㅋㅋㅋㅋ A lot of people are claiming that Seventeen is indeed at fault but I still have no idea what they did wrong and how this is supposed to help Seventeen.

6. [+24, -1] These days, misogyny and lolita are big social issues and becoming problematic. A lot of people make up things from their own standards. Now the standards are ambiguous.

7. [+22, -0] As soon as Seventeen members finish writing the lyrics, they get it checked by a female worker at their company because they don't want to get into a controversy on misogyny...

8. [+22, -1] Twitter feminists call every word misogyny ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ So annoying ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I'm a girl but Twitter feminists are disgusting ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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